France conciders ban on Burkas

I think the thing that the French are getting at is that it's for security reasons.

I mean how many of us have had to take off new rocks at airports, leave bullet belts at home whilst travelling or give up wearing claw rings because clubs ban them.
And yet people in burkas can call discrimination when they are treated suspiciously.

They feel that as the law is now it's impossible to id people at airports or for police or official purposes (immigration issues, drivers licences etc) wearing what is essentially a mask.

Glamboy wrote:

I think the thing that the French are getting at is that it's for security reasons.

I mean how many of us have had to take off new rocks at airports, leave bullet belts at home whilst travelling or give up wearing claw rings because clubs ban them.
And yet people in burkas can call discrimination when they are treated suspiciously.

They feel that as the law is now it's impossible to id people at airports or for police or official purposes (immigration issues, drivers licences etc) wearing what is essentially a mask.

This is a harsh yet honest assessment.

People feel that their religious ideals and practices should be respected, but then these people are often first in line to judge and call for the change of those around them. Your religion is a choice and an opinion, just like the sexual, fashion, musical and entertainment interests of a person. These interests and opinions are directly influenced by family upbringing, society and peers; just like religion. So therefore, if people of a certain type of dress or fashion can be hassled about their place in certain public forums, so too can people of any religion in a public forum expect rules.

If a country outlawed necklaces, and you visit it or chose to live in it, whether you're wearing a crucifix or a locket: you shouldn't be surprised if a cops asks you to take it off.

When I first read this today I thought it would have been less a deal if the French lawmakers would have just said it was for security reasons. You can hide a pretty heavy duty weapon beneath a burka and if a man is willing to blow himself up for a cause, it cetainly wouldn't be anything to don a burka in order to carry out a mission. Not saying that women don't do this too, but the gender of the majority of the body counts for the most part are males.

I believe all this will do though is to put more restrictions on women instead of helping them. I think the ban is stupid in a way because now they will just be made to stay home and off the streets. So they have actually hurt them more than help.


I'm only starting to rant on this. I don't think most women who wear burkas are doing it because they want to. Sure people can say they have the right to wear them or not, but hey, that's like you don't have to wear this, but if you don't, this and this will happen to you, to your family. Just like in the news I've been reading of the women protestors taking to the streets in Iran! Some of them took off their burkas and were wearing dresses.

Thinking about all this make me so angry. Poor women.

Makes you want to start a mini skirts for burkas campain.

Having read all of the comments above I just see it as yet another case of discrimination on the lines of "somebody looking different"

Sarkozy is a bigot, plain and simple. He talks of women being deprived of their dignity? He wants to look a bit closer to home, in fact he wants to look across the breakfast table at his wife

I'm not against them wearing them. I just want them to have the right to chose without being silently intimidated and forced to. That Sarkozy guy is just as bad if he is saying women have rights, but doesn't treat his wife that way.

As much as I agree that the Burka is a symbol of woman's subjugation, I don't agree that a law should be passed to ban them. If a man wants to strap a bomb to himself, he can still do it and hide it in other ways.

As much as I don't like the idea of a woman having to wear a burka, I most definitely do NOT think they should be banned completely. Now, I do agree that they should have to be removed before entering anywhere where there is a security reason, like a bank, or a secure government building, and I do believe they should have to be removed to take ID pictures - wearing one defeats the entire purpose of an ID, lol!

I'm iffy about whether certain stores should allow them also, but that's getting into blurry territory. In addition to there having been men robbing banks while wearing burkas, I remember seeing on the news not that long ago that a jewelry store in India, I think, banned burkas in their store because they had been robbed twice by men wearing burkas to hide their identity and their weapons.

It's a sticky situation, that's for sure.

I have quite a few female Muslim friends who wear scarves over their hair, and all of them say they would definitely not want to wear a full burka/niqab.

This is a situation where someone is clearly going to get the shaft, there has to be a loser in this situation, and sadly it's probably going to be Muslim women.