Occult hit: Witches bucking religion trend

I loved that article, dont know how I missed it before!

There's a coven operating out of Llandudno and I have been invited to join them - I'm a little bit nervous because I've always practised on my own but I'm actually quite excited about it. The only problem is that they meet in a pub in Llandudno before going up onto the hills and I fear that I would need too much Dutch Courage

I don't know about the older crowd around here, but most of the newer generations view wicca more as a fluff/tree hugger thing. The true practitioners are anything but, but as usual, the idiots talk the loudest. You should hear some of the stuff that's said about Heathenry. Supposedly we're all skinheads. It's nice to see people finally looking into it instead of believing a stereotype.

nsanelilmunky wrote:

I don't know about the older crowd around here, but most of the newer generations view wicca more as a fluff/tree hugger thing. The true practitioners are anything but, but as usual, the idiots talk the loudest. You should hear some of the stuff that's said about Heathenry. Supposedly we're all skinheads. It's nice to see people finally looking into it instead of believing a stereotype.

The ladies that invited me own a "new age" gift shop in town which I tend to frequent. Nice women in their 50s and nobody would give them a second glance.


I've gone well past the stage of caring about what anyone thinks of me anyhow and I personally have a couple of lovely skinhead friends

^^Skinhead as in the American definition?

American definition is someone who is White Supremacist. Neo-Nazi sometimes too.

nsanelilmunky wrote:

^^Skinhead as in the American definition?

American definition is someone who is White Supremacist. Neo-Nazi sometimes too.

Goddess NO!!!

We have anti fascist skinheads over here, the skinhead movement was started on that basis, f**ked up by the National Front in the UK and we still have originals

^^Anti-fascist skinheads = "Sharps," right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinheads_Against_Racial_Prejudice

nsanelilmunky wrote:

^^Skinhead as in the American definition?

American definition is someone who is White Supremacist. Neo-Nazi sometimes too.

Not every skinhead is like that.I went to high school with some of the early members of SHARP .

^^Stereotypes.. The bad ones are the ones that always come to mind first. And I was referring to the common joe walking down the street. I know not all skinheads are racist, that's just what comes to mind.

nsanelilmunky wrote:

I don't know about the older crowd around here, but most of the newer generations view wicca more as a fluff/tree hugger thing. The true practitioners are anything but, but as usual, the idiots talk the loudest. You should hear some of the stuff that's said about Heathenry. Supposedly we're all skinheads. It's nice to see people finally looking into it instead of believing a stereotype.

I figure the ratio of dimbulbs to smart people in the general population bears out in most communities of faith, whatever they are. That's why I avoid most covens- there's a lot of those "fluffy" types there. I figure my paganism is best served by privacy.

Emmature wrote:

I figure my paganism is best served by privacy.

I believe most religions are. Not to say people should shut up about their faiths; if we did, no one would learn about any different beliefs. But I think faith needs to be a personal quest of sorts, a one-on-one relationship with what one believes in, rather than a mob-mentality or peer-pressure situation, which it often turns out to be when you join a group.

Solitary or coven, I think it's just up to what kind of person you are and what your seeking out of life. There can be both bad and good in regards to organized groups. Just as there are good people and bad. And.. it's not too unlike us all being here together if you think about it. Some people like to group up with others that are into the same things they are.

Wicca has changed since the days of Ben Franklin, but there's always been different types of witches. I think wicca having had a sort of rebirth and becoming more of a religion to celebrate nature & nurture has not only helped it to grow as an accepted and practiced faith, but also has added to the lives of many. It was doing rather well in sales of related items. Especially when it was the "in" thing.

The reason that there wasn't such a good turn out, except for the lone drop in, at the occult bookstore that night, I don't think had anything to do with christians or devils. That's what I think this article is somehow trying to connect. In my opinion it has to do with the economy and the fact that this was on a friday night. It should have been held on a Saturday afternoon maybe. When things aren't all that great money wise people tend to spend more time at home and when they do go out on a friday night wiccan or not, it's not usually to a book store.

You'd have to also look at the location of the shop and the topic was all wrong to drawn people in. Oh and when you go internet... it may not be the intention to replace having actual schools, but you know there's more work involved and money for people to get to a IRL place than there is to sit down at the comp.

cynfullov wrote:

Solitary or coven, I think it's just up to what kind of person you are and what your seeking out of life. There can be both bad and good in regards to organized groups. Just as there are good people and bad. And.. it's not too unlike us all being here together if you think about it. Some people like to group up with others that are into the same things they are.

Actually, you're right. Practicing a faith in a group setting is a lot like coming to a forum; in that sense it can be a positive thing. I guess what I was trying to say is that a group setting is not mandatory. Many people of mainstream faiths (Christian, Jewish, etc.) will get bent out of shape if you state that you don't attend a house of worship.

^^^ Pfft. The best places to "worship" are outside. The Houses of worship are more to keep the nature spirits away..

On Guard twinkle toes!

^ Aw that comment of yours ... <[ Skyclad]

RedAngel wrote:

cynfullov wrote:

Solitary or coven, I think it's just up to what kind of person you are and what your seeking out of life. There can be both bad and good in regards to organized groups. Just as there are good people and bad. And.. it's not too unlike us all being here together if you think about it. Some people like to group up with others that are into the same things they are.

Actually, you're right. Practicing a faith in a group setting is a lot like coming to a forum; in that sense it can be a positive thing. I guess what I was trying to say is that a group setting is not mandatory. Many people of mainstream faiths (Christian, Jewish, etc.) will get bent out of shape if you state that you don't attend a house of worship.

I whole heartedly believe that it isn't necessary to worship within a group. And I so understand what your saying about certain people of certain faiths getting all bent out of shape with people if they don't attend a "house" of worship. I don't believe that the "church"( house of worship) was ever ment to be in referrence to a building myself.

I think it was to decribe a group of followers of a common faith. And they needn't be in any paticular location grouped together. Maybe they just didn't want to use the word club. One can belong to a "club" and still yet not visit the "club."

^^But we still get to have secret handshakes, right?

^^Hehe -- now to think up a secret Goth handshake!

How 'bout this for a secret handshake?



We shake, clap, shake, air guitar, mock one another, clap, shake, shake, kill all humans.

Wait, I think that's what the Freemasons do. Let's dance the Monkey at the end.

(Edit: Apologies for overuse of nurse. I like her.)